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Mike G
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 Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 11:20 am Post subject: 2010-11 Rookie eWins |
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Hope this format fits narrower screens. If not, a column or 2 could be deleted.
| Code: | e82 per36 rates tm Min Eff% Sco Reb Ast PF Stl TO Blk e484
8.1 Wall,John Was 39 .507 16.9 4.1 7.5 2.5 3.1 4.1 .2 1.37
8.1 Griffin,Blake LAC 35 .494 16.7 12.1 1.7 3.4 .9 2.6 .4 1.36
5.4 Fields,Landry NYK 28 .642 14.8 9.1 1.5 3.0 1.0 1.2 .2 1.12
3.8 Cousins,Demarcus Sac 22 .487 16.4 11.2 1.5 7.5 1.5 4.1 1.1 1.02
3.4 Bledsoe,Eric LAC 31 .527 12.0 5.0 5.3 2.5 1.3 3.6 .7 .66
3.0 Favors,Derrick NJN 20 .547 12.9 11.4 .1 5.5 .2 1.3 1.0 .88
2.5 Forbes,Gary Den 16 .586 18.4 6.6 1.4 2.7 1.6 1.6 .5 1.25
2.1 Turner,Evan Phi 30 .470 10.4 8.1 1.9 3.7 .7 2.6 .4 .41
2.0 Neal,Gary SAS 13 .570 15.6 7.0 1.7 3.5 .5 1.6 .0 .87
1.9 Aminu,Al-Farouq LAC 15 .552 14.3 7.9 1.0 2.7 2.2 3.3 .2 .74
1.8 Johnson,Wesley Min 29 .492 11.4 4.7 2.3 3.6 .6 2.0 .7 .37
1.1 George,Paul Ind 18 .500 10.7 5.5 2.7 2.8 1.2 1.8 .6 .54
1.0 Johnson,Armon Por 11 .552 14.9 3.2 5.3 4.0 .7 4.2 .2 .51
1.0 Anderson,James SAS 18 .583 13.3 2.0 2.5 2.8 .6 1.2 .9 .49
.9 Asik,Omer Chi 14 .643 10.3 9.2 .7 5.1 .3 2.1 1.3 .37
.8 Splitter,Tiago SAS 12 .536 11.4 8.2 .7 4.9 1.1 2.3 1.1 .53
.7 Smith,Ishmael Hou 18 .357 7.0 4.6 5.2 2.2 1.7 2.7 .0 .30
.7 Evans,Jeremy Uta 7 .588 19.2 6.9 .8 4.6 .9 .0 .0 1.35
.7 Monroe,Greg Det 17 .344 5.9 9.3 1.6 3.6 1.1 1.7 .4 .29
.6 Erden,Semih Bos 10 .647 11.5 7.7 1.6 7.5 .4 1.8 .9 .49
.6 Caracter,Derrick LAL 6 .526 13.2 7.5 1.1 7.6 .7 1.4 2.1 .79
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Eastern conference rooks are on pace to gather 23 eWins by season's end.
West is pointing at 29 equivalent wins generated, from play thus far, projected to 82 games (e82).
Last year on this date, rookies projected to 67 eWins, and they went on to get 92.
If this year's early returns -- 52 projected eWins -- are the same 37% low, they'll wind up around 71 total.
According to this thread --
http://sonicscentral.com/apbrmetrics/viewtopic.php?t=2395&start=63
-- 71 rookie eWins would be about the median over the last 8 years' rookie classes.
[Edit: original post excluded Blake Griffin, who alone accounts for 1/4 of West rookies' eWins.]
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| Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 11:57 am Post subject: |
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How does Blake Griffin look?
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Griffin now listed and tied for first.
As for depth of quality:
Last season 15 over 2.5 eW. Assuming a similar inflation by 37% over the season it appears 11 might get there this season.
Last season 31 over 1.0 eW. Assuming a similar inflation, it appears 19 might get there this season.
At least a weaker start to the season and maybe will be a weaker season for this draft class compared to the last one (and the draft class who first played in 2008-9). Though I guess it appears toward the high-end of that seen in the draft classes who first played in 2003-4 to 2007-8. |
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Mike G
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Wall now projected to miss 1/3 of the season.
(out 4 of 12 games so far)
Griffin appears as top scorer and rebounder.
| Code: | e82 per36 rates tm Min Eff% Sco Reb Ast PF Stl TO Blk T
9.4 Griffin,Blake LAC 35 .511 18.7 12.8 1.9 3.2 .8 2.6 .4 29.5
6.3 Wall,John Was 39 .507 16.5 4.1 7.5 2.4 3.0 4.1 .2 26.2
4.5 Fields,Landry NYK 28 .624 13.8 9.0 1.6 2.7 1.0 1.7 .3 22.4
4.0 Cousins,Demarcus Sac 23 .468 15.8 11.8 1.5 6.4 1.5 4.1 1.3 22.9
3.3 Favors,Derrick NJN 21 .553 13.8 11.6 .2 5.7 .1 1.3 1.1 22.4
2.8 Turner,Evan Phi 31 .482 10.8 8.0 2.4 3.7 .8 2.4 .5 17.7
2.5 Bledsoe,Eric LAC 31 .538 11.2 5.2 5.0 2.6 1.5 4.0 .5 17.1
2.4 Aminu,Al-Farouq LAC 16 .566 15.7 8.5 1.2 3.4 2.3 3.3 .2 21.6
2.1 Neal,Gary SAS 14 .529 15.5 6.5 2.3 3.9 1.0 1.9 .0 21.5
2.1 Forbes,Gary Den 16 .563 17.8 6.5 1.4 3.3 1.4 2.1 .5 23.3
1.8 Splitter,Tiago SAS 14 .585 16.4 8.7 1.2 5.1 1.6 2.2 1.6 24.2
1.4 Johnson,Wesley Min 29 .477 10.9 4.3 2.3 3.6 .6 1.9 .8 15.0
1.4 Smith,Ishmael Hou 18 .440 9.4 4.8 5.3 2.9 1.9 2.7 .2 17.7
1.2 Monroe,Greg Det 17 .363 7.1 10.2 2.0 3.6 1.3 1.7 .4 17.5
1.2 Johnson,Armon Por 11 .555 16.2 4.1 5.6 4.6 .7 4.6 .2 18.8
e82 per36 rates tm Min Eff% Sco Reb Ast PF Stl TO Blk T
1.1 George,Paul Ind 17 .481 11.2 5.7 3.3 3.8 1.2 2.0 .6 18.3
1.0 Anderson,James SAS 18 .583 14.8 2.2 2.7 3.0 .7 1.3 1.0 18.9
0.8 Asik,Omer Chi 14 .606 10.3 9.8 1.2 6.2 .2 3.1 1.7 15.8
0.7 Evans,Jeremy Uta 7 .588 22.9 8.0 1.0 5.4 1.1 .0 .0 31.4
0.7 Henry,Xavier Mem 14 .408 12.3 3.3 .9 2.9 .6 .6 .0 15.2
0.6 Caracter,Derrick LAL 7 .554 16.0 9.1 .9 8.3 1.0 3.6 1.6 19.4
0.6 Erden,Semih Bos 12 .579 12.5 7.4 2.1 7.7 .7 2.7 .7 16.4
0.6 Warren,Willie LAC 7 .444 9.5 4.3 7.4 4.5 1.9 1.9 .0 20.7
0.5 Adrien,Jeff GSW 10 .430 6.5 11.0 1.9 4.2 1.8 1.8 1.2 18.6
0.5 Booker,Trevor Was 11 .396 8.0 7.4 2.4 5.0 1.7 2.1 .8 15.7
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Rookie total eWins already up to 57 projected (from 52 just 4 days ago).
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Mike G
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Rooks headed for 54 eWins on the year.
Just 3 are above-average performers so far (e484 > 1.00)
| Code: | e82 per36 rates tm Min Eff% Sco Reb Ast PF Stl TO Blk e484
10.4 Griffin,Blake LAC 35 .524 20.1 13.6 2.1 3.2 .8 2.7 .6 1.75
5.3 Fields,Landry NYK 29 .631 14.7 10.0 1.6 2.8 1.1 1.7 .3 1.10
5.2 Wall,John Was 38 .511 16.9 3.8 7.2 2.5 2.7 3.8 .3 1.21
3.5 Cousins,Demarcus Sac 23 .449 15.3 10.8 1.4 6.5 1.1 3.7 .9 .88
2.7 Favors,Derrick NJN 20 .552 12.6 10.6 .2 5.4 .3 1.4 1.0 .81
2.6 Bledsoe,Eric LAC 29 .527 11.1 5.3 5.4 3.0 1.6 4.0 .7 .52
2.4 Turner,Evan Phi 28 .468 10.4 7.6 2.3 3.5 .8 2.1 .4 .51
2.1 Aminu,Al-Farouq LAC 18 .561 15.4 7.5 1.1 3.4 2.0 3.6 .5 .67
1.7 Forbes,Gary Den 14 .545 16.6 6.1 1.5 3.0 1.3 1.9 .4 .91
1.7 Johnson,Wesley Min 28 .494 11.4 4.2 2.1 4.2 .6 1.8 1.0 .35
1.5 Splitter,Tiago SAS 13 .586 14.5 8.0 .9 4.7 1.4 1.7 1.4 .93
1.3 Neal,Gary SAS 14 .515 13.5 5.5 1.9 3.5 .9 1.9 .0 .56
1.0 Sanders,Larry Mil 11 .450 10.5 8.2 .8 5.6 1.4 1.1 2.5 .78
1.0 Monroe,Greg Det 17 .350 6.3 10.1 1.7 3.5 1.0 1.6 .4 .42
0.9 Johnson,Armon Por 11 .543 14.5 3.7 5.3 3.9 .6 4.3 .2 .48
e82 per36 rates tm Min Eff% Sco Reb Ast PF Stl TO Blk e484
0.9 Smith,Ishmael Hou 16 .418 8.3 4.1 5.5 2.9 1.5 2.7 .3 .37
0.8 Adrien,Jeff GSW 13 .429 7.1 10.5 1.3 5.1 .7 1.0 1.0 .57
0.8 Henry,Xavier Mem 15 .429 12.5 3.3 .9 3.3 .5 .7 .2 .34
0.7 Crawford,Jordan Atl 12 .478 15.0 5.7 2.1 2.4 .7 1.7 .0 .74
0.7 George,Paul Ind 16 .448 9.9 5.2 3.0 3.3 1.0 1.8 .5 .43
0.7 Anderson,James SAS 18 .583 13.9 2.1 2.6 2.8 .6 1.3 .9 .55
0.6 Asik,Omer Chi 13 .511 8.0 8.6 1.0 5.7 .5 2.2 1.5 .28
0.6 Evans,Jeremy Uta 5 .579 22.1 8.0 .9 5.7 .9 .0 .0 1.67
0.5 Ebanks,Devin LAL 8 .393 12.4 7.9 .5 1.7 .6 1.1 2.3 .83
0.5 Mozgov,Timofey NYK 13 .444 7.8 8.7 1.4 7.6 1.6 4.0 3.0 .24
0.5 Lin,Jeremy GSW 11 .411 8.2 3.2 3.1 3.7 4.6 2.5 1.5 .44
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Larry Sanders lurches into the top 15.
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| Code: | e82 per36 rates tm Min Eff% Sco Reb Ast PF Stl TO Blk e484
10.7 Griffin,Blake LAC 36 .531 20.8 13.6 2.3 3.0 .8 2.8 .6 1.75
5.3 Fields,Landry NYK 31 .609 14.0 9.5 2.0 2.1 1.2 1.7 .2 1.01
4.2 Wall,John Was 38 .501 15.1 3.4 6.6 2.6 2.4 3.6 .3 .95
4.0 Cousins,Demarcus Sac 24 .459 15.4 11.4 1.4 6.6 1.0 3.4 .8 .99
2.6 Favors,Derrick NJN 19 .552 13.1 10.5 .2 5.6 .4 1.8 1.1 .82
2.4 Bledsoe,Eric LAC 29 .521 10.5 5.2 5.5 3.0 1.5 4.0 .6 .50
2.3 Turner,Evan Phi 27 .466 10.1 7.4 2.4 3.4 .9 2.0 .4 .52
2.2 Aminu,Al-Farouq LAC 18 .561 16.2 7.5 .9 3.6 1.8 3.8 .5 .70
2.1 Neal,Gary SAS 16 .545 15.5 5.8 2.0 3.2 1.0 1.8 .0 .78
2.0 Johnson,Wesley Min 28 .518 11.7 4.7 2.1 4.1 .6 2.1 1.0 .41
e82 per36 rates tm Min Eff% Sco Reb Ast PF Stl TO Blk e484
1.9 Forbes,Gary Den 13 .571 18.6 5.9 1.6 3.8 1.1 1.8 .4 1.03
1.8 Sanders,Larry Mil 14 .464 11.1 9.3 .6 5.4 1.5 1.0 3.6 1.02
1.5 Splitter,Tiago SAS 12 .532 14.0 7.8 1.4 5.1 1.3 1.6 1.1 .89
1.4 Monroe,Greg Det 19 .431 7.7 9.7 1.6 3.7 1.4 1.9 .7 .50
1.0 Henry,Xavier Mem 17 .473 13.5 2.9 1.3 3.9 .4 .9 .2 .41
1.0 Asik,Omer Chi 12 .526 8.3 9.5 1.1 6.0 .6 2.1 2.0 .50
1.0 Adrien,Jeff GSW 11 .463 8.3 11.3 1.5 5.3 .7 1.1 1.1 .75
0.8 Johnson,Armon Por 11 .511 13.9 4.9 5.6 4.1 .6 5.1 .2 .48
0.7 Evans,Jeremy Uta 4 .619 28.0 8.9 .8 5.6 .9 .0 .0 2.14
0.7 Smith,Ishmael Hou 14 .429 7.1 4.3 5.6 2.6 1.6 2.9 .3 .31
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While some rookies have already shown improvement, others were getting a lot of minutes relative to their productivity.
Overall improvement is slowing; now projected at 59 total eWins for the season.
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First season 29% over, total heading for 60 eWins from rookies: 36 in the West, 24 in the East. | Code: | e82 per36 rates tm Min Eff% Sco Reb Ast PF Stl TO Blk e484
11.0 Griffin,Blake LAC 36 .519 20.6 13.5 2.5 3.0 .8 2.8 .6 1.78
5.2 Fields,Landry NYK 31 .595 13.0 9.6 1.9 2.0 1.2 1.6 .3 .98
4.6 Wall,John Was 38 .497 14.9 3.6 6.7 2.6 2.2 3.4 .4 1.05
4.2 Cousins,Demarcus Sac 24 .448 15.1 11.0 1.5 6.4 1.0 3.3 .7 1.04
2.8 Bledsoe,Eric LAC 28 .513 10.5 5.2 5.4 2.9 1.3 3.9 .4 .58
2.4 Favors,Derrick NJN 19 .556 12.3 10.1 .2 5.3 .5 1.7 1.1 .79
2.3 Turner,Evan Phi 25 .470 9.9 7.1 2.5 3.3 .9 1.9 .3 .56
2.0 Neal,Gary SAS 16 .556 15.2 5.2 1.9 3.0 .8 1.7 .1 .75
2.0 Aminu,Al-Farouq LAC 18 .536 14.0 7.4 1.2 3.5 1.8 3.6 .4 .66
1.9 Johnson,Wesley Min 29 .520 10.9 4.7 1.9 3.7 .6 2.1 .8 .39
e82 per36 rates tm Min Eff% Sco Reb Ast PF Stl TO Blk e484
1.9 Forbes,Gary Den 13 .599 17.4 5.5 1.4 3.3 1.3 1.7 .5 .96
1.7 Monroe,Greg Det 20 .446 7.8 9.6 1.2 3.6 1.4 1.7 .8 .56
1.5 Sanders,Larry Mil 16 .407 9.3 8.3 .4 5.2 1.2 1.1 3.2 .74
1.4 Splitter,Tiago SAS 12 .531 13.3 7.4 1.4 4.6 1.2 1.6 .8 .83
1.1 Erden,Semih Bos 14 .580 11.6 7.0 1.1 6.5 .5 2.5 1.5 .55
1.0 Jeter,Eugene Sac 12 .553 14.4 4.8 6.6 1.8 1.5 2.4 .0 1.12
1.0 Asik,Omer Chi 12 .488 7.4 9.1 1.1 5.7 .9 1.9 1.6 .48
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| Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 6:50 pm Post subject: |
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Rookie update.
It's officially a runaway.
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e82 per36 rates tm Min Eff% Sco Reb Ast PF Stl TO Blk e484
10.9 Griffin,Blake LAC 37 .524 20.6 13.6 2.9 2.9 .8 2.7 .6 1.76
4.8 Cousins,Demarcus Sac 25 .466 16.9 11.4 1.8 6.1 .9 3.5 .9 1.14
4.4 Fields,Landry NYK 32 .589 11.4 8.8 2.3 2.0 1.2 1.6 .2 .82
4.1 Wall,John Was 38 .497 15.0 3.4 7.3 2.5 2.2 3.4 .4 1.05
2.7 Favors,Derrick NJN 19 .557 13.1 11.3 .3 6.1 .4 1.8 1.0 .88
2.7 Bledsoe,Eric LAC 28 .521 10.7 4.9 5.8 2.8 1.3 3.8 .4 .57
2.4 Neal,Gary SAS 16 .537 15.7 6.2 2.2 3.6 .9 1.6 .1 .87
2.2 Turner,Evan Phi 23 .455 10.0 7.3 2.7 3.3 .8 1.9 .3 .57
2.1 Monroe,Greg Det 20 .461 8.9 10.3 1.3 3.9 1.4 1.9 .9 .66
2.1 Johnson,Wesley Min 28 .532 10.9 4.5 2.4 3.6 .6 1.9 .8 .43
e82 per36 rates tm Min Eff% Sco Reb Ast PF Stl TO Blk e484
1.8 Aminu,Al-Farouq LAC 17 .540 14.0 7.7 1.3 3.4 1.7 3.5 .4 .63
1.7 Forbes,Gary Den 13 .581 16.3 5.8 1.8 3.8 1.3 1.8 .5 .90
1.5 Sanders,Larry Mil 15 .398 9.9 8.6 .4 5.2 1.2 1.1 3.3 .83
1.5 Splitter,Tiago SAS 11 .530 14.3 7.8 2.2 5.1 1.2 1.7 .9 .98
1.3 Erden,Semih Bos 14 .600 12.7 7.0 1.3 6.7 .6 2.3 1.6 .63
1.3 Jeter,Eugene Sac 13 .520 13.6 4.6 7.5 2.2 1.9 2.4 .2 1.13
1.2 Asik,Omer Chi 12 .489 8.1 9.9 1.5 6.2 1.0 2.2 1.7 .59
1.2 Booker,Trevor Was 14 .542 11.1 7.2 1.2 4.9 1.7 2.0 .8 .58
1.0 Smith,Ishmael Hou 13 .425 7.7 4.5 7.3 2.6 1.5 3.0 .2 .55
0.9 Johnson,Armon Por 9 .497 15.4 5.3 6.5 4.1 .5 5.0 .2 .77 |
Of players with at least 500 minutes on the season, Griffin is the #5 rebounder.
Among the top 15 rebounders, only Duncan is a better passer (Ast).
Among the top 25 Reb, only Dwight is the better scorer.
Season now 33% finished, rooks looking at 62 eWins.
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Season 36% completed and rookies total 63.5 equivalent wins projected.
| Code: | e82 per36 rates tm Min Eff% Sco Reb Ast PF Stl TO Blk e484
11.4 Griffin,Blake LAC 37 .533 21.2 13.7 3.0 3.0 .8 2.7 .5 1.83
4.7 Fields,Landry NYK 32 .604 11.6 8.9 2.3 1.9 1.2 1.6 .3 .86
4.6 Cousins,Demarcus Sac 25 .455 16.3 11.4 1.8 6.0 .9 3.7 .8 1.10
3.9 Wall,John Was 37 .488 15.2 3.8 7.3 2.7 2.2 3.5 .5 1.08
2.7 Neal,Gary SAS 18 .556 16.5 5.3 2.1 3.2 .8 1.4 .1 .90
2.7 Favors,Derrick NJN 19 .565 12.9 10.7 .3 6.1 .5 1.7 .9 .87
2.6 Bledsoe,Eric LAC 27 .507 10.2 4.9 5.7 2.8 1.3 3.6 .5 .56
2.1 Monroe,Greg Det 20 .463 8.9 9.9 1.3 3.8 1.3 1.7 .8 .66
2.1 Turner,Evan Phi 24 .437 9.9 6.8 2.8 3.3 .9 1.8 .3 .56
2.0 Aminu,Al-Farouq LAC 17 .535 14.2 7.9 1.3 3.5 1.6 3.2 .4 .71
e82 per36 rates tm Min Eff% Sco Reb Ast PF Stl TO Blk e484
2.0 Johnson,Wesley Min 28 .539 10.7 4.4 2.4 3.6 .6 1.9 .8 .42
1.7 Sanders,Larry Mil 15 .413 10.7 8.5 .4 4.7 1.3 .9 3.1 .89
1.6 Splitter,Tiago SAS 12 .555 14.5 8.3 2.0 4.9 1.4 2.0 .9 1.00
1.5 Forbes,Gary Den 13 .576 15.4 5.2 1.7 3.8 1.1 1.7 .4 .78
1.4 Asik,Omer Chi 12 .534 8.6 10.1 1.4 6.0 .8 2.0 1.8 .69
1.2 Erden,Semih Bos 14 .593 11.7 7.1 1.2 6.4 .5 2.1 1.5 .61
1.2 Booker,Trevor Was 13 .545 10.8 7.3 1.0 4.3 1.6 2.0 .8 .57
1.1 Jeter,Eugene Sac 14 .490 12.1 4.0 6.6 2.4 1.5 2.4 .3 .87
1.0 Davis,Ed Tor 19 .488 8.9 11.1 .7 4.5 .5 .9 1.1 .75
1.0 Henry,Xavier Mem 17 .453 12.0 2.9 1.3 3.5 .7 1.0 .2 .36
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With the season 40% over.
| Code: | e82 per36 rates tm Min Eff% Sco Reb Ast PF Stl TO Blk e484
12.0 Griffin,Blake LAC 37 .539 21.7 13.6 2.9 2.9 .7 2.7 .5 1.91
5.4 Cousins,Demarcus Sac 25 .467 16.8 11.4 2.1 5.8 1.0 3.5 .7 1.25
4.5 Fields,Landry NYK 31 .592 11.2 8.8 2.3 1.9 1.2 1.6 .4 .84
4.1 Wall,John Was 36 .499 15.6 4.0 7.2 2.8 2.0 3.9 .5 1.08
2.7 Neal,Gary SAS 18 .555 16.5 5.4 1.8 3.3 .7 1.4 .0 .90
2.4 Favors,Derrick NJN 19 .570 12.1 9.8 .3 6.1 .5 1.8 .9 .77
2.3 Turner,Evan Phi 24 .454 10.3 6.8 2.6 3.2 1.0 1.8 .2 .59
2.3 Bledsoe,Eric LAC 26 .496 10.2 4.8 5.4 2.7 1.4 3.7 .4 .52
2.2 Johnson,Wesley Min 28 .547 11.3 4.2 2.5 3.5 .6 1.9 .7 .45
2.1 Aminu,Al-Farouq LAC 18 .541 13.6 8.0 1.1 3.2 1.4 3.1 .4 .71
2.0 Monroe,Greg Det 19 .455 8.6 9.8 1.3 3.5 1.3 1.7 .7 .65
1.5 Sanders,Larry Mil 14 .400 9.9 8.0 .3 4.5 1.2 .9 3.1 .83
1.4 Splitter,Tiago SAS 12 .531 13.6 7.9 1.7 4.7 1.2 1.8 .8 .91
1.4 Davis,Ed Tor 20 .500 9.0 11.3 .6 3.9 .8 .9 1.3 .82
1.4 Forbes,Gary Den 13 .540 14.6 4.8 1.6 3.6 .9 1.7 .3 .69
1.2 Asik,Omer Chi 12 .532 7.9 9.6 1.3 5.6 .7 1.9 1.7 .61
1.0 Erden,Semih Bos 14 .593 11.2 6.8 1.2 6.1 .5 2.0 1.4 .58
0.9 Booker,Trevor Was 13 .544 10.2 6.7 .9 4.1 1.5 1.8 .8 .52
0.8 Henry,Xavier Mem 17 .453 11.7 2.9 1.3 3.4 .7 1.0 .2 .34
0.8 Jeter,Eugene Sac 14 .434 9.8 3.1 6.3 2.2 1.2 2.3 .2 .56
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West rookies lead East in projected eWins, 39-25.
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Through 45% of the season, rookies total 65 eWins pace.
| Code: | e82 per36 rates tm Min Eff% Sco Reb Ast PF Stl TO Blk e484
12.3 Griffin,Blake LAC 37 .538 21.7 13.6 3.0 2.9 .7 2.7 .6 1.96
5.6 Cousins,Demarcus Sac 26 .468 16.8 11.0 2.1 5.6 1.1 3.5 .9 1.25
4.6 Fields,Landry NYK 32 .604 11.2 8.6 2.4 1.8 1.3 1.5 .3 .85
4.4 Wall,John Was 24 .487 15.2 3.8 7.6 2.6 1.8 3.7 .4 1.08
2.7 Neal,Gary SAS 18 .563 16.3 5.0 1.9 3.1 .7 1.3 .1 .88
2.6 Favors,Derrick NJN 18 .573 12.7 10.0 .2 6.1 .6 1.7 1.1 .85
2.3 Monroe,Greg Det 20 .466 9.0 10.1 1.2 3.3 1.4 1.7 .6 .70
2.3 Bledsoe,Eric LAC 26 .486 10.1 4.7 5.4 2.8 1.4 3.6 .6 .53
2.2 Turner,Evan Phi 23 .455 10.4 6.4 2.5 2.9 1.0 1.8 .2 .56
2.1 Aminu,Al-Farouq LAC 18 .524 13.4 7.9 1.2 3.2 1.4 3.1 .5 .70
e82 per36 rates tm Min Eff% Sco Reb Ast PF Stl TO Blk e484
2.0 Johnson,Wesley Min 28 .531 11.0 4.0 2.4 3.3 .7 1.9 .8 .43
1.5 Sanders,Larry Mil 11 .422 10.3 7.9 .4 4.3 1.0 .9 3.1 .81
1.4 Davis,Ed Tor 11 .523 8.9 10.2 .6 4.3 .9 1.1 1.9 .77
1.3 Forbes,Gary Den 11 .522 14.3 4.7 1.8 3.6 .9 1.5 .4 .71
1.3 Asik,Omer Chi 12 .560 8.3 9.6 1.4 5.4 .6 2.1 2.1 .63
1.2 Splitter,Tiago SAS 8 .531 13.1 7.7 1.7 4.5 1.2 1.8 .9 .87
1.0 Jeter,Eugene Sac 10 .431 9.2 3.1 7.1 2.3 1.2 2.1 .2 .61
0.9 Erden,Semih Bos 9 .598 10.8 6.7 1.2 5.8 .6 1.9 1.4 .54
0.8 Booker,Trevor Was 10 .536 10.1 6.6 .9 3.9 1.5 1.7 .8 .50
0.8 George,Paul Ind 6 .493 11.8 6.4 2.3 4.4 2.2 1.5 .7 .82
0.8 Harris,Manny Cle 8 .493 11.2 5.2 2.4 2.3 1.6 1.8 .2 .58
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Though some are seeing more minutes, still only 3 are above average productivity (1.00 eW/484 min)
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Crow
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Only big difference in ranking between eW/484 min and EZPM100 that I see is Cousins with EZPM100 ranking him 25 spots lower.
The three biggest reasons why EZPM is different I think are:
1) Splitting the credit for opponent missed shots / defensive rebounds between all defenders and the defensive rebounder and mostly to the defenders instead of giving it all to the defensive rebounder.
2) Considering counterpart rebounding and the way that likely reduces the boost that big men would otherwise get in a metric that doesn't position adjust for rebounding (as would be the case with eW/484 to my memory).
3) The inclusion of team shot defense while actually on the court instead of using overall team defense appears to be another significant factor hurting Cousins' ranking given his negative on/off team defensive efficiency. |
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Mike G
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Thanks, these are all good to know.
But if Cousins is not even among the 25 best rookies, he's one of the worst rookies in the league. I see he's 24th in WS/48 and 12th in PER --
http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/tiny.cgi?id=mTcD8
Both these stats are gaga over a high shooting% and low TO. Some highly rated guys are getting very little playing time. Cousins shoots badly (.476 TS%) and often. His teammates have shot .038 better, and he's brought team shooting down about .005 .
He's just about tied with Tyreke Evans for most scoring attempts per minute, and leads Sac in scoring rate ('Reke shoots even worse). He's clearly gotten some minutes based on his potential, and he's far from ready for prime time.
Some other unspectacular rookie WS/48 rates of this Century:
LeBron .078, Durant .040, Westbrook .035, Deron Williams .059, Gay .011 .
Cousins is one of 10 NBA players with TReb% and Pts/36 both greater than 16.5 -- others being Boozer, Howard, Griffin, Love, Zach, Garnett, Horford, Duncan, Bynum.
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In addition to the rebounding, one thing I like about Cousins is his ability to get unassisted field goals (which ezPM likes). His low shooting percentage combined with relatively high usage are what put him way down on my list. But I suspect if he gets his head together and matures a bit, he'll be very productive in the future.
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