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Mike G
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At 7/8 of the season.
| Code: | 2009 - 10 per36 2008 - 09 per36
eW+ per36 rates tm Eff% Sco Reb Ast Eff% Sco Reb Ast
3.60 Durant,Kevin Okl .588 32.1 7.2 2.1 .566 24.5 6.5 2.1
2.83 Mohammed,Nazr Cha .579 19.4 12.1 .8 .430 9.1 8.5 .7
2.38 Greene,Donte Sac .520 13.6 5.3 1.2 .413 7.3 4.2 1.1
2.26 Weems,Sonny Tor .514 11.6 5.0 1.8 Den .328 7.7 2.4 1.5
2.22 Frye,Channing Phx .589 14.6 7.0 1.3 Por .461 11.1 6.9 1.0
2.20 Bayless,Jerryd Por .527 19.9 3.6 3.8 .474 11.4 3.2 3.6
2.14 Ilyasova,Ersan Mil .521 16.0 10.1 1.3 '07 .500 11.9 6.7 1.2
2.10 Bogut,Andrew Mil .531 19.0 12.0 1.7 .577 14.9 13.2 2.0
2.05 Crawford,Jamal Atl .568 22.3 3.1 2.9 NYGS .537 17.4 2.9 3.4
1.97 Smith,Josh Atl .527 17.1 9.6 3.8 .522 17.0 8.2 2.3
eW+ per36 rates tm Eff% Sco Reb Ast Eff% Sco Reb Ast
1.95 Boozer,Carlos Uta .583 23.5 12.8 2.6 .515 18.4 13.1 2.1
1.89 Lee,David NYK .579 20.9 11.8 2.5 .579 16.8 12.5 1.9
1.85 Westbrook,Russel Okl .484 17.7 5.5 6.7 .480 16.0 5.8 4.9
1.81 Redick,J.J. Orl .589 17.0 3.1 2.4 .550 12.4 3.4 2.1
1.75 Gallinari,Danilo NYK .570 15.5 5.4 1.2 .614 13.9 4.4 1.0
1.66 Wright,Dorell Mia .544 11.8 5.9 1.8 .391 6.7 9.7 .8
1.62 Ridnour,Luke Mil .564 19.9 3.0 5.1 .493 11.9 4.3 5.7
1.60 Maggette,Corey GSW .604 24.5 6.6 2.0 .564 20.1 6.3 1.6
1.60 Brooks,Aaron Hou .543 21.2 2.8 4.0 .514 16.9 3.0 4.0
1.55 Lopez,Robin Phx .607 15.3 9.2 .2 .553 9.8 6.9 .4
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Is there any argument that Durant should not be MIP?
He wasn't even an All Star last year.
Sonny Weems appeared in the top 30 in mid-Dec. He made the top 10 earlier this month. Now he's in the top 5.
He might be discounted because he's a 2nd-year man (23 YO), not yet a starter, still not playing major minutes.
Here are some monthly splits (per36), throwing in last year just for fun. | Code: | G MPG 2FG% FT% TSA TS% Pts ORb DRb Ast PF Stl TO
2009 12 4.6 .364 .375 18.7 .333 12.4 .0 2.6 2.0 5.2 .7 3.9
Nov 9 10.0 .471 --- 14.8 .432 12.8 1.6 3.2 1.6 4.0 .4 2.0
Dec 13 19.2 .477 .588 14.2 .467 13.2 1.2 3.7 3.9 3.7 1.6 1.4
Jan 13 15.5 .491 .643 11.1 .507 11.3 1.3 4.1 2.7 4.3 .5 1.8
Feb 10 20.3 .534 .818 11.5 .571 13.1 1.1 2.8 1.6 2.8 .7 2.5
Mar 11 22.3 .597 .750 11.9 .588 14.0 1.0 4.3 2.4 3.2 .6 1.5
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kjb
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| Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 12:36 pm Post subject: |
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| Mike: Out of curiosity, how do Wizards Andray Blatche and Javale McGee do in your Most Improved calculations? |
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Mike G
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Well, they're among the 5 most-improved Wizards. | Code: | eW+ per36 rates tm Eff% Sco Reb Ast 2009: Eff% Sco Reb Ast
1.03 Blatche,Andray Was .519 17.4 8.7 1.7 .501 14.1 8.6 2.0
.07 Thornton,Al Was .525 14.6 6.1 1.2 LAC .494 15.3 5.4 1.1
.07 Livingston,Shaun Was .480 10.7 3.1 5.7 Okl .551 10.6 4.4 2.4
-.18 Young,Nick Was .498 14.1 2.8 1.0 .523 15.7 3.0 1.4
-.23 Mcgee,Javale Was .524 11.5 8.0 .4 .522 13.9 9.4 .5
-.24 Singleton,James Was .456 7.6 10.4 .7 Dal .604 12.9 9.9 .5
-.33 Miller,Mike Was .617 12.5 6.8 3.2 Min .581 11.7 8.0 4.2
-.37 Stevenson,Deshaw Was .377 3.7 3.9 1.9 .404 7.0 3.4 3.3
-.39 Foye,Randy Was .505 14.7 2.9 3.8 Min .510 16.1 3.4 3.7
-.48 Oberto,Fabricio Was .613 4.4 5.1 1.9 .584 8.3 7.8 2.7
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Butler was close to -2.0 when he left. Jamison also in the red.
I don't understand the strategy of getting rid of your best players, since there aren't enough better players out there to restock all the weak rosters in the league.
Between the mass jettisons and the unimprovement of almost all remaining, this ship be sinkin'.
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BobboFitos
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| Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 5:01 pm Post subject: |
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| Mike G wrote: | Butler was close to -2.0 when he left. Jamison also in the red.
I don't understand the strategy of getting rid of your best players, since there aren't enough better players out there to restock all the weak rosters in the league.
Between the mass jettisons and the unimprovement of almost all remaining, this ship be sinkin'. |
At what point can we say they're officially "sunk"? 
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erivera7
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| Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 4:36 pm Post subject: |
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I agree Durant SHOULD win Most Improved because his leap to superstardom, from looking at some of the numbers, has been bigger than the respective leaps of other players that have improved in the NBA. But unfortunately, the voters won't vote for him because of an archaic mentality of rewarding the "unknown to known" player. I don't cover the Thunder but if I did, I'd take every linear metric I could find and compare Durant's leap to the leaps of Most Improved candidates and see how he stacks up against them.
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Mike G
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Most improved player (by far) on most improved team (by far) -- ought to count for something.
Previous age-21 winners: McGrady'01, Arenas'03, Ellis'07.
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kjb
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| BobboFitos wrote: | | Mike G wrote: | Butler was close to -2.0 when he left. Jamison also in the red.
I don't understand the strategy of getting rid of your best players, since there aren't enough better players out there to restock all the weak rosters in the league.
Between the mass jettisons and the unimprovement of almost all remaining, this ship be sinkin'. |
At what point can we say they're officially "sunk"? |
Probably that point came during the current 15-game losing streak (and counting) when Andray Blatche -- the 6-11 youngster who's actually scoring and rebounding pretty well -- decided to ignore his coach's efforts to coach him. Flip Saunders pulled him from the game about 7 minutes into the first quarter so he could talk to him about getting back on defense. Blatche said he thought Flip wanted to discuss shot selection, but that it was "too early" for conversation on that topic. So Blatche ignored the coach.
Then, the next day, Blatche went on local radio to say that the entire incident (Blatche didn't get another minute, and Flip later ripped him for quitting on the team.) could be put behind them if he (Blatche) received an apology. Seriously.
Blatche did later apologize.
No word from Blatche on how many minutes need to elapse from the game clock before it's acceptable for a coach to say something about shot selection. |
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fundamentallysound
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| I think KD deserves the MIP, but I think a pretty strong case could be made for Andrew Bogut, given the tremendous leap he made on the defensive end this year and his improvement overall. |
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Mike G
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Update -- it's a runaway. | Code: | eW+ per36 rates tm Eff% Sco Reb Ast '09 Eff% Sco Reb Ast
4.31 Durant,Kevin Okl .588 32.1 7.2 2.1 .566 24.5 6.5 2.1
2.93 Mohammed,Nazr Cha .579 19.4 12.1 .8 .430 9.1 8.5 .7
2.86 Weems,Sonny Tor .514 11.6 5.0 1.8 .328 7.7 2.4 1.5
2.55 Greene,Donte Sac .520 13.6 5.3 1.2 .413 7.3 4.2 1.1
2.52 Boozer,Carlos Uta .583 23.5 12.8 2.6 .515 18.4 13.1 2.1
2.51 Frye,Channing Phx .589 14.6 7.0 1.3 .461 11.1 6.9 1.0
2.41 Ilyasova,Ersan Mil .521 16.0 10.1 1.3 .500 11.9 6.7 1.2
2.29 Bogut,Andrew Mil .531 19.0 12.0 1.7 .577 14.9 13.2 2.0
2.25 Bayless,Jerryd Por .527 19.9 3.6 3.8 .474 11.4 3.2 3.6
2.19 Lee,David NYK .579 20.9 11.8 2.5 .579 16.8 12.5 1.9
2.18 Redick,J.J. Orl .589 17.0 3.1 2.4 .550 12.4 3.4 2.1
2.16 Crawford,Jamal Atl .568 22.3 3.1 2.9 .537 17.4 2.9 3.4
2.09 Westbrook,Russel Okl .484 17.7 5.5 6.7 .480 16.0 5.8 4.9
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Durant's produced 4.3 more wins this year than he'd have produced at last year's rates (in this year's minutes). This is just about 50% more than anyone else.
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