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tmansback · Joined: 12 Aug 2005 Posts: 129

Since we were talking about the draft 82 games did something to measure how big a NBA player truly plays.

http://www.82games.com/trueheight.htm

Gay and Thomas have almost the exact same measurements but Thomas plays much bigger. Thats interesting.

Mark · Joined: 20 Aug 2005 Posts: 807

It would be nice to see more of the detail on the method. If the author visits here or if anyone knows him maybe he could share more here.

Standing reach and jumping reach both important. Standing reach maybe more than many folks think on defense and even rebounding.

tmansback · Joined: 12 Aug 2005 Posts: 129

I emailed him asking about his method and sent him some measurements from players over the last 5 years. I be interested to seeing some current players.

alphamale · Joined: 03 May 2006 Posts: 67

A little more methodology would be nice. But yeah, I have to agree, I've seen Tyrus play in college and he plays big. Your hypothesis is a fair one, that reach and leaping ability is more important than height, but also a combination of the 3. I guess this explains why tiny Bill Russell blocked about a millions shots a game at while Yao (the alligator) Ming blocks less than two. I would like to see these numbers for current NBA players. I think guys like Gerald Wallace, Zo, and Shawn Marion would also rank pretty high.

tsherkin · Joined: 31 Jan 2005 Posts: 247

tmansback · Joined: 12 Aug 2005 Posts: 129

tsherkin · Joined: 31 Jan 2005 Posts: 247

It'll be interesting to see, for sure. I really would love to get a look at his formula but I question this: if Gay hadn't been playing so much on the wing or in the backcourt as he occasionally played, would his True Height Index be higher?

I mean, OF COURSE Thomas plays taller, because he was by design a PF while Rudy was a SF.

tmansback · Joined: 12 Aug 2005 Posts: 129

I think it would be more since Thomas plays bigger it allows him to play PF. During the year the throught process was that Thomas was playing so well because he had a growth spirt. That he had all of sudden grown to 6'10. I had one argument with a guy who was saying he was bigger than LaMarcus Aldridge now and was equal size to Dwight Howard in height. Him measuring 6'7 not only meant all that was untrue. That he was the same size that he was when he came to LSU. Those individuals though so how big Thomas plays. Gay to me has never looked like he was playing bigger than his 6'8 height.