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Two steps (official): statistical effect?
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deepak



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 1:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It might be interesting to investigate if European players get called for proportionately more travels than their American counterparts in the NBA.
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Jose A. Martínez



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 1:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, this will be an interesting research idea.

Anyway, again, please Mr. Phil Jackson, just see all the games of the Olympic tournament in Beijing 2008, and then, please, re-think your statement.

Mr. Jackson, you can start watching this video...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-__b94XN1dA&hl=es
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 3:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know.

Manu Ginobili gives step by step instructions on what is called his "Euro step" signature move. It's an explicit 2-step maneuver after picking up his dribble. He does it all the time in games, much to my frustration (and, I imagine, Phil Jackson's).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gqx7OqmJpL8

That's something he came up with only after joining the NBA?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 3:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just to add to the Phil Jackson comment.


From Vince Carter today:

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Also checked in with Carter on what he thought about the tweaked traveling rule. Players can now take two steps with the ball before stopping to pass or shoot. "Really? I didn’t know that. I had no idea," he said. He paused for a second. "I could work with that. what’s the rule now?" I told him. "So it’s going to the European style?" He tilted his head and smiled as he thought about it. "I can handle that."


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Jose A. Martínez



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 4:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

But this so called "euro-step" is just giving two steps after dribbling and then shot... It is not something "strange" or a "bizarre play". It is just simple basketball... I am somewhat puzzled by this new rule. I thought it was related to the steps before bouncing the ball...

Childs that play basketball in Spain, the first they learn is to give these two steps...
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 4:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In my opinion this move is mostly about the eurostep and moves of that ilk. Just codifying that you are allowed two steps after dribbling.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 6:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

josean.martinez@upct.es wrote:
But this so called "euro-step" is just giving two steps after dribbling and then shot... It is not something "strange" or a "bizarre play". It is just simple basketball... I am somewhat puzzled by this new rule. I thought it was related to the steps before bouncing the ball...


No, its putting in writing exactly what you're describing. Players can now, officially, take two steps after stopping their dribble.

Edit: Oops. What DLew said.
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