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BobboFitos
Joined: 21 Feb 2009 Posts: 199 Location: Cambridge, MA
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Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 1:35 am Post subject: Guess that shot chart! |
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Figured this could be a fun exercise. Can't share the graphical software, but can share some of its byproducts. Will post answers later... Best guesser wins a cookie? The pictures are listed by degree of difficulty (for me, at least)
Shooter #1!
Shooter #2!
Shooter #3!
Shooter #4!
Shooter #5!
_________________ -Rob |
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mtamada
Joined: 28 Jan 2005 Posts: 377
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Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 4:04 am Post subject: |
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Very cool, it's great how color is used to add a crucial 3rd dimension of useful information. |
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gabefarkas
Joined: 31 Dec 2004 Posts: 1313 Location: Durham, NC
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Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 8:19 am Post subject: |
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What do the total numbers for each chart represent? |
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Ryan J. Parker
Joined: 23 Mar 2007 Posts: 711 Location: Raleigh, NC
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Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 9:54 am Post subject: |
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#1: Low volume guy that shoots a lot from the corner? Bruce Bowen?
#2: someone that shoots from everywhere and seems to shoot it all well? Kobe Bryant?
#3: kinda like the previous, but doesn't shoot from the outside as well? LeBron James?
#4: basically shoots nothing from outside... similar to #5 but enjoys the paint more?
I'd go with someone like KG for #4 and maybe say someone like Duncan for #5? Trying to pin the guy that has a high volume mid-range without 3pters is tough (esp the lack of paint stuff in #5)... _________________ I am a basketball geek. |
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devin3807
Joined: 11 Oct 2007 Posts: 66
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Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 11:02 am Post subject: |
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#1 - Mickael Pietrus |
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ecumenopolis0
Joined: 15 Jul 2008 Posts: 22 Location: Houston
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Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 1:27 pm Post subject: |
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#1: Bruce Bowen -- corners
#2: Steve Nash? -- the hardest one. Who's good from everywhere except mid-paint?
#3: Carmelo Anthony -- doesn't finish well enough to be LeBron
#4: Zydrunas Ilgauskas -- all straight on
#5: Kevin Garnett -- midrange without threes. |
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Marver
Joined: 21 Jun 2009 Posts: 5
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Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 8:50 pm Post subject: |
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For the sake of the exercise, I'll guess players who haven't yet been mentioned.
1. Vladimir Radmanovic?
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3. Dwyane Wade?
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5. Big Baby? |
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DJE09
Joined: 05 May 2009 Posts: 148
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Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 9:37 pm Post subject: |
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This is awesome, I can't get what the total is of as well, but perhaps that is so we can't look up the players
1. Shane Battier
2. Ray Allen
3. Kobe Bryant
4. I have no Idea, but is definitely a C/PF who shoots from the high post - Yao?
5. I like Garnett Here, except surely he shoots short jumpers too, so has to be someone who only shoots uncontested midrange jumpers - Tony Battie? _________________ Stats are only OK if they agree with what I think |
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BobboFitos
Joined: 21 Feb 2009 Posts: 199 Location: Cambridge, MA
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Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 11:41 pm Post subject: |
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Keep the guesses coming. Heading out and can only post for a sec, but #1 is Bruce Bowen - I think that one is pretty obvious Pretty awesome shot chart for him too. No one has guessed 2 through 5 correctly yet, though. _________________ -Rob |
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Mike G
Joined: 14 Jan 2005 Posts: 3599 Location: Hendersonville, NC
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Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 6:15 am Post subject: |
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Bowen went all year without hitting a straight-on shot. Wow.
One year, his 3FG% was higher than his 2FG%, which was higher than his FT%. Anyone else ever done that?
#2 Q Rich
#3 Mehmet
#4 Boozer
#5 Biedrins _________________ `
36% of all statistics are wrong |
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DJE09
Joined: 05 May 2009 Posts: 148
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Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 6:48 am Post subject: |
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Take 2:
2. Kapono
3.AI - I am wondering if intensity of color is supposed to represent the (relative) proportions of shots from that area too?
4. No idea
5. David West |
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ecumenopolis0
Joined: 15 Jul 2008 Posts: 22 Location: Houston
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Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 7:56 am Post subject: |
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DJE09 wrote: | 3.AI - I am wondering if intensity of color is supposed to represent the (relative) proportions of shots from that area too?
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I think the hue (blue-to-yellow-to red) is percentage and the intensity (pale-to-darker) is frequency. |
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Neil Paine
Joined: 13 Oct 2005 Posts: 774 Location: Atlanta, GA
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Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 11:21 am Post subject: |
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Is #2 Paul Pierce? |
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BobboFitos
Joined: 21 Feb 2009 Posts: 199 Location: Cambridge, MA
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Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 11:41 am Post subject: |
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ecumenopolis0 wrote: | DJE09 wrote: | 3.AI - I am wondering if intensity of color is supposed to represent the (relative) proportions of shots from that area too?
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I think the hue (blue-to-yellow-to red) is percentage and the intensity (pale-to-darker) is frequency. |
Exactly, this. The #of shots should help eliminate some guesses. As said, #1 is Bowen. It is amazing he's mastered the corner 3 but basically has absolutely no offensive value aside from this.
Some hints...
#2: A friend describes this player as "wearing a dog collar, anytime he gets near the paint he gets zapped". We think he's overrated.
#3: Thinks he's a guard
#4: Probably ran incredibly well on 2pt jumpshots; would not expect a repeat performance this next year.
#5: Knows he's not a guard and yet shoots better than most. _________________ -Rob |
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BobboFitos
Joined: 21 Feb 2009 Posts: 199 Location: Cambridge, MA
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Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 11:46 am Post subject: |
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DJE09 wrote: |
4. I have no Idea, but is definitely a C/PF who shoots from the high post - Yao?
5. I like Garnett Here, except surely he shoots short jumpers too, so has to be someone who only shoots uncontested midrange jumpers - Tony Battie? |
good breakdown, and you're on the right track. i think the players you mentioned are basically the wealthy-version, or put another way, the players shot charts are the poor mans Yao (well, poor poor!) and poor man's KG. _________________ -Rob |
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