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Remedy for tanking?
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asimpkins



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 11:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Conan the Librarian wrote:
Really? In my nearly 10 years of watching NBA basketball I have never seen this phenomena,


Well, okay. It was more speculation on what could happen, on what the current incentives push towards, but it was a bit of a slippery slope argument. You're right in that it's never been that bad, but I think it definitely has the potential to get worse.

My other point still stands. It's not a victim less crime. Those draft picks are being taken away from someone.
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jae



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 8:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A simple solution would be to seed the lottery not by record in the most recent season, but by the number of years since a team has appeared in the playoff. Ties between teams could be set by cumulative record since the last playoff appearance.

While teams might tank games in a single season, I suspect that no team would purposely try to avoid the playoffs for years on end. Teams drafting late lottery several years in a row would see their odds improve, breaking cycles of just-below mediocre results that really do not provide for an interesting product.
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Chicago76



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 3:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mike P wrote:
2. Keep the current system's odds but the seeding of best odds to worst odds is determined by the number of wins the 14 lottery teams have from the time they are officially eliminated from a potential postseason berth until the end of the season. Highest number of wins gets the best odds at the top pick, lowest number of wins gets the worst odds at the top pick.


I like this one a lot, but I'd change it up a bit:

-no more lottery period, just straight wins since you've been eliminated
-if two teams have the same number of post-elimination wins, the team with the fewest games to accumulate those wins picks first.
-do something to address the conference disparities. The current #8 in the West is 40-24 while the current #8 in the East is 27-38. This allows a bad team in the West the opportunity to be mathematically eliminated ealier and earn draft wins. It only reinforces the quality difference between conferences.

Maybe just say when a team has been mathematically eliminated from being the #16 team in the league.
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bballfan72031



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 12:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It sounds simple, but I still think the best way to do things would to simply give all non-playoff teams one lottery ball. Eliminate the odds system--all non-playoff teams should have equal odds. It provides no incentive for a #7 worst team to try to become the #5 worst team, and I doubt any team is going to try to tank the chance to go to the playoffs and earn extra revenue and morale for a 1 in 14 chance at getting the first overall pick. If you want, you could keep the system so that the lottery is only for the 1-3 picks and the rest are ranked in order of losses.
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