{"id":224,"date":"2011-02-04T10:50:25","date_gmt":"2011-02-04T16:50:25","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/godismyjudgeok.com\/DStats\/?p=224"},"modified":"2013-10-11T09:33:27","modified_gmt":"2013-10-11T14:33:27","slug":"aspm-vorp-all-stars-2011","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/godismyjudgeok.com\/DStats\/2011\/nba-stats\/aspm-vorp-all-stars-2011\/","title":{"rendered":"ASPM VORP All-Stars 2011"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Well, everyone else has an All-Star post up already:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.nba.com\/allstar2011\/players\/index.html\" class=\"broken_link\">The actual All-Stars<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/sonicscentral.com\/apbrmetrics\/viewtopic.php?t=2742\" class=\"broken_link\">Mike G at APBR<\/a>, with his eWins selections (also PER shown) (his thread inspired me to write this up)<\/li>\n<li>EvanZ, with his ezPM on the <a href=\"http:\/\/thecity2.com\/2011\/02\/03\/picking-the-western-all-star-reserves\/\">West<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/thecity2.com\/2011\/02\/03\/picking-the-eastern-all-star-reserves\/\">East<\/a> All-Stars<\/li>\n<li>Kevin Pelton, with his <a href=\"http:\/\/www.basketballprospectus.com\/article.php?articleid=1443\" class=\"broken_link\">WARP All-Stars<\/a><\/li>\n<li>John Hollinger&#8217;s <a href=\"http:\/\/insider.espn.go.com\/nba\/insider\/columns\/story?columnist=hollinger_john&amp;page=PERDiem-110131\">look at ESPN<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Zach Lowe&#8217;s <a href=\"http:\/\/sportsillustrated.cnn.com\/basketball\/nba\/blogs\/nba-point-forward\/2011\/02\/03\/parsing-the-all-star-reserves-sorry-no-love\/index.html\" class=\"broken_link\">take on the selections<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Henry Abbot&#8217;s <a href=\"http:\/\/espn.go.com\/blog\/TrueHoop\/post\/_\/id\/24465\/not-a-hollywood-ending\">evaluation of the choices<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Marc Spears&#8217; <a href=\"http:\/\/sports.yahoo.com\/nba\/news;_ylt=A0wNdbNzKUxNBtgABwG8vLYF?slug=mc-allsnubbed020311\">&#8220;Snubs&#8221;<\/a><\/li>\n<li>etc.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>So what does ASPM say? \u00a0Well, the best measure for an All-Star game would be total overall contributed value, so I&#8217;ll look at Value over Replacement Player (VORP) to quantify who should be in. \u00a0Obviously, some positions are deeper than others&#8211;particularly in the West at PG.<\/p>\n<p>Here is a colorful table of the West All-Stars (minus Yao Ming and whomever the commish picks to replace him):<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_225\" style=\"width: 730px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"http:\/\/godismyjudgeok.com\/DStats\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/02\/ASPM-VORP-All-Star-2011-West.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-225\" class=\"size-full wp-image-225\" title=\"ASPM VORP All Star 2011 West\" src=\"http:\/\/godismyjudgeok.com\/DStats\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/02\/ASPM-VORP-All-Star-2011-West.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"720\" height=\"766\" srcset=\"http:\/\/godismyjudgeok.com\/DStats\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/02\/ASPM-VORP-All-Star-2011-West.png 720w, http:\/\/godismyjudgeok.com\/DStats\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/02\/ASPM-VORP-All-Star-2011-West-140x150.png 140w, http:\/\/godismyjudgeok.com\/DStats\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/02\/ASPM-VORP-All-Star-2011-West-281x300.png 281w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 720px) 100vw, 720px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-225\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">The West All-Stars 2011<\/p><\/div>\n<p>Okay&#8211;the point guards are dominating in the West. \u00a0In fact, 4 of the top 6 players are PG&#8217;s. \u00a0Perhaps ASPM is biased towards PG&#8217;s a bit? \u00a0Then again, conventional wisdom on who the best players in the West are sort of lines up with the PG-heavy line of thinking. \u00a0Nash and Love are the 2 primary &#8220;snubs&#8221;, though one of them should get in to replace Yao. \u00a0Carmelo and Tim Duncan are lesser&#8230; however, the fans wanted to see Carmelo, and Duncan is Tim Duncan! \u00a0Besides, there aren&#8217;t a lot of &#8220;centers&#8221; in the West at all. \u00a0Marc Gasol is the best true 5!<\/p>\n<p>On to the East, where the crop is much shallower:<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_226\" style=\"width: 730px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"http:\/\/godismyjudgeok.com\/DStats\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/02\/ASPM-VORP-All-Star-2011-East.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-226\" class=\"size-full wp-image-226\" title=\"ASPM VORP All Star 2011 East\" src=\"http:\/\/godismyjudgeok.com\/DStats\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/02\/ASPM-VORP-All-Star-2011-East.png\" alt=\"ASPM VORP All Star 2011 East\" width=\"720\" height=\"596\" srcset=\"http:\/\/godismyjudgeok.com\/DStats\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/02\/ASPM-VORP-All-Star-2011-East.png 720w, http:\/\/godismyjudgeok.com\/DStats\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/02\/ASPM-VORP-All-Star-2011-East-150x124.png 150w, http:\/\/godismyjudgeok.com\/DStats\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/02\/ASPM-VORP-All-Star-2011-East-300x248.png 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 720px) 100vw, 720px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-226\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">The East All-Stars 2011<\/p><\/div>\n<p>Much cleaner. \u00a0The fans made good choices, and the coaches mostly did as well. \u00a0Josh Smith should be in over his teammate Joe Johnson (again), and perhaps Brand over Bosh (hey, did anybody notice Elton Brand is having a good year?), but other than that it&#8217;s pretty clear.<\/p>\n<p>The MVP debate has also been raging. \u00a0Many people are backing Rose, and the stat-geek crowd is strongly opposing that. \u00a0I don&#8217;t oppose it as strongly as most; Rose is 3rd in the league in VORP right now, with only CP3 carrying a team to a much greater extent than he has been. \u00a0Of course, CP3 is WAY ahead of Rose in this metric, so I still support CP3 for MVP&#8230;.<\/p>\n<p>EDIT: the data in the tables above may be found <a href=\"http:\/\/godismyjudgeok.com\/DStats\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/02\/NBA-All-Stars.htm\">HERE<\/a>.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Well, everyone else has an All-Star post up already: The actual All-Stars Mike G at APBR, with his eWins selections (also PER shown) (his thread inspired me to write this up) EvanZ, with his ezPM on the West and East All-Stars Kevin Pelton, with his WARP All-Stars John Hollinger&#8217;s look at ESPN Zach Lowe&#8217;s take &#8230; <span class=\"more\"><a class=\"more-link\" href=\"http:\/\/godismyjudgeok.com\/DStats\/2011\/nba-stats\/aspm-vorp-all-stars-2011\/\">[Read more&#8230;]<\/a><\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"ngg_post_thumbnail":0,"footnotes":""},"categories":[14,12],"tags":[56,54,31,22,29],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/godismyjudgeok.com\/DStats\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/224"}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/godismyjudgeok.com\/DStats\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/godismyjudgeok.com\/DStats\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/godismyjudgeok.com\/DStats\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/3"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/godismyjudgeok.com\/DStats\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=224"}],"version-history":[{"count":6,"href":"http:\/\/godismyjudgeok.com\/DStats\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/224\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":994,"href":"http:\/\/godismyjudgeok.com\/DStats\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/224\/revisions\/994"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/godismyjudgeok.com\/DStats\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=224"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/godismyjudgeok.com\/DStats\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=224"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/godismyjudgeok.com\/DStats\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=224"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}