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what does the pre-season mean?

 
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schtevie



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 7:30 pm    Post subject: what does the pre-season mean? Reply with quote

The pre-season stats are starting to accumulate. Are these meaningful for predicting subsequent seasonal performance - in terms of teams, in terms of individuals?
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John Hollinger



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 6:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can't remember where I saw th is, it might have been here, but somebody did some kind of study that found a really good presason record -- like 7-0 or 6-1 -- is a mildly positive indicator, and nothing else means jack. That's on a team level; haven't seen anything for individuals but my basic premise is that all the veterans are coasting so it's tough to evaluate.
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THWilson



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 10:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It was over at 82games.

I've never seen anything about players.
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devin3807



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 3:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I actually did a piece on this myself.

I was wondering if I could get some input from some of you.

http://www.devinblack.com/preseason.html
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Ben



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 10:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think a regression with both preseason and previous season records as independent variables would be a natural thing to look at.
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Mountain



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 3:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Devin's article adds some useful things such as the correlations for good, average and bad teams. The team by team correlations of pre-season and regular season are also interesting though coaching stability or change should temper its use as an indicator now.

Hawks will be an interesting case to watch. I think 42 wins is reachable though I'd guess the under is more likely.

7-1 Toronto highlighted in the fall '06 82 games study paid off big in increased regular season wins.
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