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schtevie · Joined: 18 Apr 2005 Posts: 85

The idea of discussing criteria for the HOF as the main event is interesting, very interesting, but as a kind of inaugural/introductory APBR session, it seems to be fraught with the potential for unproductive controversy, especially coincident with a confab of NBA Old Timers, and a complete lack of agreement.

These facts I think shouldn't be terribly controversial:

(1) The statistical record of the bygone era is relatively poor in critical ways (e.g. no series for Offensive Rebounds, Turnovers, and Steals.)

(2) There is no generally-agreed upon state of the art, when it comes to evaluating the evolution (i.e. improvement or worsening) of the game itself - that is the context for evaluating "fame".

(3) Just as there are no firm criteria for choosing a yearly MVP, there are no meaningfully-defined criteria for selecting a HOFer.

(4) And finally, any robust conclusions that might ensue will inevitably and necessarily imply that certain HOFers don't belong. Perhaps even some nice fellow sitting in the audience.

Do these points make sense, and if so, is the hypothetical framework conducive to a successful introduction of the APBR?

HoopStudies · Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 3:10 pm Post subject:

HeatherA · Joined: 03 Aug 2006 Posts: 49

Paul G. and I are at about 50-50. Frankly, it depends upon whether we can find reasonable flights/accommodations. I'm pretty sure we're not going to be able to get anyone to pick up the tab.

Mike G · Joined: 14 Jan 2005 Posts: 1494 Location: Delphi, Indiana

There are hotel suites in Vegas that have basketball courts. Maybe a well-off benefactor will spring for one of these, and we can all just pile in.
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John Hollinger · Joined: 14 Feb 2005 Posts: 77

I'd put my odds at about 30-70 -- September is usually the one month a year the Mrs. and I can go someplace like, say, Belgium and frolic for a while.

HoopStudies · Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 9:17 am Post subject:

Hold off on making travel plans to Las Vegas in September. Our primary reason for holding the APBR Meeting there was to have access to some of the NBA Retired Players. They changed their plans and we are now having to reconsider ours.

We will let everyone know as soon as we can what's going to happen where.
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NABASPORTS · Joined: 14 Jun 2007 Posts: 1 Location: Gilbert, AZ

Is there any new information available on the proposed basketball meetings? Please let me know. I have made my interest known and thought this would be a great idea to whomever would be able to attend, and finally attach a face with a name! Thanks. Look forward to seeing everyone.
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Mike G · Joined: 14 Jan 2005 Posts: 1494 Location: Delphi, Indiana

There's no meeting planned at this time, sorry.
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HoopStudies · Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 5:36 pm Post subject:

The best opportunity to meet APBR people is probably at the Sloan Sports Conference in Boston in February and at summer leagues. At least that's when I've met my share. Boston is good for East Coast people (there were a lot this year) and the Vegas Summer League is good for West Coast folks. Until we get big enough, tagging along for events like these is what makes sense.
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admin · Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 6:04 pm Post subject:

Pretty small crew in Vegas this year, at least that I was aware of. It was great to meet mikez, however.