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Crow



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 4:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A few more data bits I noticed:

Effective FG % RAPM

Ariza nearly in the bottom quartile.
Brook Lopez bottom third.
Tim Thomas, Felton top fifth.
Radmanovic top quarter.
Raja Bell top 5%.

The direct individual stats don't explain these rankings very much. Team effects, negative and positive, must be pretty large. Accurate or outlier.
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RChung



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 9:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Scaled by 2008-9 minutes played:

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 1:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love those graphs.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 1:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ed Küpfer wrote:
I love those graphs.


I really like how you can't read the names of players that we probably shouldn't be making a fuss over.
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RChung



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 2:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ryan J. Parker wrote:
I really like how you can't read the names of players that we probably shouldn't be making a fuss over.

Well, in that case maybe I should've disappeared the entire 2008-9 Kings roster. But, yeah, that's exactly the reason why one might want to scale by minutes played.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 3:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ed Küpfer wrote:
I love those graphs.


Everyone loves Chung Charts.


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 3:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I was a coach I'd want the chart converted into a table of the differences between the OEFG and DEFG for the several most likely match-ups to help with consideration of which match-ups to try hardest to get shots up on offense and where to be more selective or creative. And it would provide a defensive overview and would probably affect strategy there too.

Of course now that we have Adjusted EFG, I'd push for Adjusted Inside, Mid-Range and 3 pt FG measures. For more clues. Imperfect but often helpful .
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 8:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cherokee_ACB wrote:
Ed Küpfer wrote:
I love those graphs.

Everyone loves Chung Charts.

Kids, don't try this at home.
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