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TwoTrey
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 Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2010 2:30 pm Post subject: Anyone Have Pace Adjusted Individual Playoff Statistics? |
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| No secret the game slows down in the playoffs. I'm curious to see how the greats stack up. |
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habetw4
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| Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2010 4:07 pm Post subject: |
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Basketball-Reference has several pace-adjusted statistics for every player under the Playoffs Advanced section on the team and player pages. Also, the Play Index tool on the site is a fantastic resource.
http://www.basketball-reference.com/
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Mike G
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| Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 5:49 am Post subject: |
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There have been numerous playoff series between high-pace teams that, in fact, are quite high-pace. There isn't one pace adjustment for all playoff appearances.
In 1989, Den and Phx met in the first round. In their 3 playoff games, Den had a pace of 107.6 --
http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/NBA_1989.html
Phx then played GS in round 2. That year, Den (107.5), GS (107.3), and Phx (104.5) were the 3 fastest-paced teams in the league. Naturally, these series were also fast paced.
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Mike G
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| Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 8:48 am Post subject: |
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| habetw4 wrote: | Basketball-Reference has several pace-adjusted statistics for every player under the Playoffs Advanced section on the team and player pages. Also, the Play Index tool on the site is a fantastic resource.
http://www.basketball-reference.com/ |
The playoffs are under the Player Season Finder in the Play Index tab.
Just toggle from Regular Season to Playoffs.
Toggle to Advanced, and you're pretty much in the pace-adjusted realm.
Total playoff careers, 100 greatest Win Shares (to 1952):
http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/tiny.cgi?id=0aJHC
Sort by WS/48, and the leaders are :
| Code: | WS/48 playoffs WS
.255 Jordan 39.8
.229 LeBron 14.7
.208 Magic 32.6
.206 Nowitzki 18.5
.204 Duncan 28.6
.203 West 26.7
.200 Wilt 31.5
.199 Robinson 17.5
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Toggle to Active players, and it's easy to glean the current Finalists:
| Code: | WS/48 Finalists tm WS
.182 Gasol LA 11.6
.161 Kobe LA 26.1
.158 R Allen Bos 13.0
.154 Garnett Bos 11.9
.144 Pierce Bos 12.0
.127 Rondo Bos 6.2
.125 R Wallace Bos 15.1
.122 Bynum LA 2.5
.121 G Davis Bos 2.8
.115 Perkins Bos 4.2
.106 Fisher LA 12.2
.074 Artest LA 3.8 |
Almost entirely winners!
.100 is average (playoffs)
These are actually current, as of the morning after a game.
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TwoTrey
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| Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 2:55 pm Post subject: |
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| Mike G wrote: | | habetw4 wrote: | Basketball-Reference has several pace-adjusted statistics for every player under the Playoffs Advanced section on the team and player pages. Also, the Play Index tool on the site is a fantastic resource.
http://www.basketball-reference.com/ |
The playoffs are under the Player Season Finder in the Play Index tab.
Just toggle from Regular Season to Playoffs.
Toggle to Advanced, and you're pretty much in the pace-adjusted realm.
Total playoff careers, 100 greatest Win Shares (to 1952):
http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/tiny.cgi?id=0aJHC
Sort by WS/48, and the leaders are :
| Code: | WS/48 playoffs WS
.255 Jordan 39.8
.229 LeBron 14.7
.208 Magic 32.6
.206 Nowitzki 18.5
.204 Duncan 28.6
.203 West 26.7
.200 Wilt 31.5
.199 Robinson 17.5
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Toggle to Active players, and it's easy to glean the current Finalists:
| Code: | WS/48 Finalists tm WS
.182 Gasol LA 11.6
.161 Kobe LA 26.1
.158 R Allen Bos 13.0
.154 Garnett Bos 11.9
.144 Pierce Bos 12.0
.127 Rondo Bos 6.2
.125 R Wallace Bos 15.1
.122 Bynum LA 2.5
.121 G Davis Bos 2.8
.115 Perkins Bos 4.2
.106 Fisher LA 12.2
.074 Artest LA 3.8 |
Almost entirely winners!
.100 is average (playoffs)
These are actually current, as of the morning after a game. |
Thanks, I wasn't aware that the finder had included advanced statistics.
I do have a question, what kind of criteria did you use as a cutoff for Minutes or Games Played and why? |
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Mike G
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| Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 3:02 am Post subject: |
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I used no criteria at all, just checked the 'combined seasons' button.
That's the default, to sort by descending Win Shares.
With that top 100 WS list, I sorted for WS/48 by clicking that column header.
It looks like there are 20 players not in the top 100 minutes who are in the top 100 WS. And vise versa.
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