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4 factors in boxscores
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cherokee_ACB



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 1:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To deepak: yes, I'm using total team turnovers in all computations - see my first message

To gabefarkas: live NBA games happen when I'm in a deep REM phase, so I don't have any example of a live boxscore to play with. Currently I only use clockData to detect overtimes.

To John Quincy: you probably just need to replace a double 'nextSibling' with a single one for the team names to display correctly in Opera

To holymoly: thanks for the compliments. Forecasting is a very different animal. I prefer to keep things simple.
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gabefarkas



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 1:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cherokee_ACB wrote:

To gabefarkas: live NBA games happen when I'm in a deep REM phase, so I don't have any example of a live boxscore to play with. Currently I only use clockData to detect overtimes.


In that case I'll play with it and let you know.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 7:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, this is beyond slick. Many kudos to cherokee.
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gabefarkas



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 9:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just curious if anyone else is trying this during tonight's CHI/ORL game? I am, and getting nothing to come up. Is it just me, or anyone else too?
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Eli W



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 10:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gabefarkas wrote:
Just curious if anyone else is trying this during tonight's CHI/ORL game? I am, and getting nothing to come up. Is it just me, or anyone else too?


Yeah, it doesn't seem to work on live boxscores for me as well.
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NickS



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 1:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I finally tried this out and it really is as great as everyone says.

Thanks.

Would it be possible to write a equivilant script for the Y! boxscores? I prefer their website for scores just because I think it's cleaner.
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gabefarkas



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 1:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cherokee - it seems like it doesn't necessarily work during games. I took a quick look through the code and I can't figure out why not offhand.

So, I thought you might want to take a crack at it. I grabbed two source codes for you to take a look at.

Halftime of CHI/ORL

Midway through second quarter of SAS/SAC
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cherokee_ACB



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 11:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, Gabe.

The format is a little different in live boxscores, and that was causing troubles. I've updated the script with live boxscores support, plus I've added the possession estimate when minutes != 48
http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/7817

For Yahoo the script would be quite similar. Actually, my initial idea was to write it for Yahoo, but eventually (for Team turnovers and other reasons) my choice was ESPN, and that's it. I'm not planning on maintaining two different scripts. I'm sure you understand.
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Ed Küpfer



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 8:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just wanted to confirm that this is working for live scores. Good job.


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gabefarkas



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 9:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ed Küpfer wrote:
Just wanted to confirm that this is working for live scores. Good job.


With a couple of tweaks, you can make it show actual possessions per team. But yeah, it works great for live scores too now.
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tsherkin



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 12:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's an impressive piece of work...

Nicely done.
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AJax



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 9:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks very much for this, I've been meaning to install GreaseMonkey for months and this is a very worthwhile reason to do so.

Nice coding, we appreciate your work. - Adam
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RustyKSU



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 8:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Awesome work...how hard would it be to grab the values from college box scores, which have a slightly different format?

I'd do it myself, but I'm pretty clueless when it comes to this stuff...I thought I'd see if someone had already done it before I wasted a couple hours learning how to write scripts.
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cherokee_ACB



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 2:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RustyKSU wrote:
Awesome work...how hard would it be to grab the values from college box scores, which have a slightly different format?


Not much hard, but there are already sites with 4-factor NCAA boxscores, and ESPN doesn't provide turnover numbers in their live coverage, so a user script wouldn't be any better than what's already available for college.
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RustyKSU



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 8:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cherokee_ACB wrote:
RustyKSU wrote:
Awesome work...how hard would it be to grab the values from college box scores, which have a slightly different format?


Not much hard, but there are already sites with 4-factor NCAA boxscores, and ESPN doesn't provide turnover numbers in their live coverage, so a user script wouldn't be any better than what's already available for college.


Gotcha, thanks...does cbssportsline have TO's in their standard live box scores? I know their NCAA tourney ones do, but can't remember what their standards are like.
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