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cherokee_ACB
Joined: 22 Mar 2006
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 Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 3:43 pm Post subject: Re: I've been crunching numbers by hand and these don't jive |
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This is due to team turnovers, which ESPN reports, but Y! doesn't. In this case, there was a shot-clock violation from OKT. This impacts pace, Eff and TOr.
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That in itself is not such a big deal, but I guess is there a link or something where I can see how you compute your numbers? If not that, I will detail how I've been coming up with my numbers and perhaps you can tell me where I am going wrong. To get possessions I am: FGA-OR+TO +(.44xFTA). I should be able to do this for both teams and see each's pace. You apparently average the two. |
Right. I use the same formula and average both teams, but then multiply by a 0.976 factor and round to the nearest integer. The 0.976 factor comes from the "A Starting Point for Analyzing Basketball Statistics" paper |
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easygojoe
Joined: 24 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 4:10 pm Post subject: Thanks very much. |
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I appreciate you taking the time to get me on the right path. I was able to download a pdf of the paper you linked to and will get busy digesting it.
Thanks again so much Cherokee.
Joe |
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Ben F.
Joined: 07 Mar 2005
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| Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 7:43 pm Post subject: |
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| The ESPN version doesn't seem to be working for me while the game is going, which was a neat feature last year. Not a huge deal but if you had some extra time I would really appreciate it. |
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cherokee_ACB
Joined: 22 Mar 2006
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| Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 8:36 am Post subject: |
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| Ben F. wrote: | | The ESPN version doesn't seem to be working for me while the game is going, which was a neat feature last year. Not a huge deal but if you had some extra time I would really appreciate it. |
Fixed. It was a small format change.
http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/7817 |
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Ben F.
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| Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 6:55 pm Post subject: |
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| Awesome, thank you so much. |
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Carlos
Joined: 21 Jan 2005
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Location: Montevideo, Uruguay
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| Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 8:59 am Post subject: |
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| Cherokee, I'm sorry for bothering you with this and believe me that we are all very appreciative of your work, but ESPN has introduced +/- into their boxscores and it has caused your script to cease to work. ¿Would it be possible to fix it? |
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eyriq
Joined: 04 Jun 2008
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Location: Orlando
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| Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 12:13 pm Post subject: |
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| Carlos wrote: | | Cherokee, I'm sorry for bothering you with this and believe me that we are all very appreciative of your work, but ESPN has introduced +/- into their boxscores and it has caused your script to cease to work. ¿Would it be possible to fix it? |
+1 Please? |
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bastillon
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| Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 1:29 pm Post subject: |
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| Make it +2 |
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cherokee_ACB
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gabefarkas
Joined: 31 Dec 2004
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Location: Durham, NC
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| Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 3:09 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Cherokee,
I've been using your script for some time now, and there's a tweak I've made to it that I like, to add bolding to the team who "wins" each of the 4 factors.
I've replaced the following line (and all other similar lines)
| Code: | | tdAux.textContent = efgH.toFixed(1) + "%"; |
With the following code (changing the variable for each of the factors)
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if (efgH > efgA) {
bold = doc.createElement("b");
bold.textContent = efgH.toFixed(1) + "%";
tdAux.appendChild(bold);
}
else { tdAux.textContent = efgH.toFixed(1) + "%";
} |
I find it easier to quickly glance at the Four Factors and tell who did better in what by looking at which of the numbers are in bold. For example, in a close game like this, I can quickly see the Bucks did better in eFG and TOr, while the T-Wolves did better in OR% and FT/FG.
For TOr, obviously I changed it to "if (torH < torA)" for the Home Team, to get the team with fewer turnovers.
I hope this is OK. I just thought I'd mention it to you in case you also liked it. |
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erivera7
Joined: 19 Jan 2009
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Location: Chicago, IL
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| Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 6:31 pm Post subject: |
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First-time poster here!
Thanks so much for this neat, valuable too. Definitely beats the generic box scores one has to deal with on a daily basis. Well done with the script!
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eyriq
Joined: 04 Jun 2008
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Location: Orlando
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| Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 1:32 pm Post subject: |
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| Hey, thanks for the fix! |
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RobbieStats
Joined: 18 Dec 2007
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Location: Tobacco Road, NC
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expertcapper
Joined: 03 Feb 2009
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| Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 9:10 pm Post subject: |
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| Hey there very good work..i have firefox 3.0.6 and for some reason i can only see one team pace calculation, I cannot see the other? Do i have a newer firefox? |
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expertcapper
Joined: 03 Feb 2009
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| Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 9:31 pm Post subject: |
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| Also, I noticed pace of 85 for a game and they had already scored 89 in the actual game..so i figure this does not take into consideration the actual score? Is it possible to program this using the pace and other 3 factors to determine how much each team will end up scoring at the end of the game? |
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